Will Russell Westbrook finish with a better career than Allen Iverson? First Take debates

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Will Russell Westbrook finish with a better career than Allen Iverson? First Take debates
Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman, and Kendrick Perkins debate whether Russell Westbrook will finish with a better career than Allen Iverson.
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0:00 Kendrick Perkins says we will never see another player like Russell Westbrook in our lifetime.
2:00 Max Kellerman says Allen Iverson has the better career than Russell Westbrook.
4:00 Stephen A. shares his thoughts on whether Westbrook will finish with a better career than Iverson.
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Rolo Watts
Rolo Watts 5 րոպե առաջ
Psmith 37 րոպե առաջ
I'd like to make 2 points to counter what Stephen A said. First, in terms of quality of teammates, he said AI never had a teammate better than Oladipo...do we forget that he played with Melo in Denver? You may say AI was past his prime, but it was his 11th season and he averaged 26 ppg. Westbrook is currently in his 12th season and averaging a triple-double and apparently, Stephen A doesn't have a problem including any of his current teammates to prove his point. Second, their final appearances. Of course, the 2012 OKC squad was absolutely better than the 2001 sixers...but let's look at their playoff runs. The 2012 OKC Thunder was the first time that the finals team out of the west was not the Spurs, Lakers, or Mavs in 14 years when THE JAZZ lost to MJ. What 3 teams did OKC beat in the playoffs that year? Dallas (4-0), Lakers (4-1), Spurs (4-2). ***Defending Champion Dallas, a Lakers team that had won two and three years before that, and a Spurs team that would go on to make the next two finals. Now, who did the sixers beat in the '01 playoffs? A .500 squad Pacers in a best of 5 (3-1), the Toronto Raptors (4-3), and the Bucks led by a young Ray Allen and Sam Cassell (4-3). Of course, they lost to one of the best teams in history. A Lakers team that had swept through the playoffs at that point and the only game they lost was an EPIC Iverson 40 point performance and the infamous Ty Lue step over. It's definitely a good debate and a close call, but we need to be honest in our comparisons. And honestly, I think I'd Westbrook.
That Vision
That Vision 50 րոպե առաջ
This is just a disrespectful topic smh
Christian Soldier
Christian Soldier 51 րոպե առաջ
Allen Iverson and Russell Westbrook are George Washington and Abraham Lincoln on the Mt Rushmore of overrated NBA players
Vis Sion
Vis Sion Ժամ առաջ
26.7 ppg SAS not 29 ppg for Iverson he still the GOAT
Vis Sion
Vis Sion Ժամ առաջ
Westbrook never lead a team to the Finals 🤷🏾‍♂️ Eric Snow,A old Mutumbo and Aaron McKie 🤣🤣🤣 Stop it!!! AI will end with the overall better career.
Aloctor Gloves
Aloctor Gloves 2 ժամ առաջ
You can tell and see that players hate playing with Russ because he steals the rebounds and has to have a high usage rate aka (ball hog) to get his points!!!
Travis Travis
Travis Travis 2 ժամ առաջ
Westbrook never had Carmello Anthony, Chriss Webber, Glen Robinson, Mutumbo as team mates. Iverson did. Stephen A is trippin. Second to that...when KD left OKC....OKC had nobody's on their roster. Westbrook took them to the playoffs on his own back and won the MVP...just sayin.
Yoshimitsu San
Yoshimitsu San 3 ժամ առաջ
Definitive1 3 ժամ առաջ
AI is more popular but Westbrook has had the better career and it isn’t close. Russ impacts the game scoring, facilitating, & rebounding. AI impacted the game scoring and that’s all. Iverson wasn’t efficient either by the way.
graffProdigy 3 ժամ առաջ
We won’t get another A.I. But we can always get another stat padder...
Devarian Sutton
Devarian Sutton 4 ժամ առաջ
graffProdigy 4 ժամ առաջ
A.I. Was the man in his day... Westbrook isn’t even the man on his team. Who would most teams take, Westbrick or Beal?
Mashiro 4 ժամ առաջ
Why is KP an analyst. He sucks that’s an opinion
Dewayne Mcdaniel
Dewayne Mcdaniel 5 ժամ առաջ
Kendrick Perkins you are absolutely right
Dennis Eudela
Dennis Eudela 5 ժամ առաջ
Of course. Russ will finish better NOW! A.I. however had a shorter but sweeter career taking the Sixers to the Finals almost singlehandedly. The biggest letdown of AI is head swelling up bigger than the arena, so he GONE in an embarrasing way. Before he was completely retired, went back to the Sixers after a China stint. The guy was BENCHED by his own team due to being washed up already, does not want to fit on a new role of a new team concept,, with a head STILL as big as the stadium... so Disaster strikes. Used to have luxury & sportscars left & right, ended up begging to friends for a 🍔. Super wasted talent that at least Russ, as erratic as he my be ON COURT, manages his ego & well-being outside of it.
JIMBO 5 ժամ առաջ
I watched Al his whole career. Westbrook personally is a better all around player than Allen whom was great. The reality is that Westbrook isn't beloved like Iverson. Iverson was loved by women and was a bigger icon by far also was tough...
E C 6 ժամ առաջ
how how how de carabao- kendrick perkins
E C 6 ժամ առաջ
id take AI any day.
YAE daTRUTH 6 ժամ առաջ
A.I .....not even close. Westbrook cant take his team to a winning record let alone the finals
Bobo Look
Bobo Look 7 ժամ առաջ
Buffalo Bo says BOTH players were amazing!
Wolves at the Door
Wolves at the Door 7 ժամ առաջ
KP looks like he wants to cry
Lost Under the Sky
Lost Under the Sky 7 ժամ առաջ
I’m not nostalgic for AI, he’s great and all, I respect and appreciate his game when he played. But come on, I don’t know why you guys hating on the nba players that’s playing in the league right now. Why the hate?
Ben Frankz
Ben Frankz 7 ժամ առաջ
Yes 🙌
JJ Sparks
JJ Sparks 7 ժամ առաջ
King 27
King 27 7 ժամ առաջ
Iverson didn't play with a KD, Harden, Bradley Beal. He got Melo but he was nearing the end. When he got Webber Webber was done
JCMthebrand 8 ժամ առաջ
He has to make a finals appearance before I can take this seriously
e soss
e soss 8 ժամ առաջ
It’s like Kobe and ai had a baby together Molly hummmn 😂😂
YouTubeN Out the Way
YouTubeN Out the Way 8 ժամ առաջ
he definitely wont get a championship
NiceguyBananne 8 ժամ առաջ
Iverson had Melo
Tej S
Tej S 9 ժամ առաջ
You give Allen Iverson Harden and KD ain't no way they not winning a ring. Or just give him Harden.
Billboe Bagginns
Billboe Bagginns 9 ժամ առաջ
Statistically yes
Raymond M
Raymond M 9 ժամ առաջ
Perkins stinks as a nba speaker
horace douglas
horace douglas 9 ժամ առաջ
This is not a true assessment, it's a popularity contest. The numbers are unquestionably in one direction.
Remy Beatz
Remy Beatz 9 ժամ առաջ
Basketball isn’t all about stats… Perkins got owned
QUENISHA WELLS 10 ժամ առաջ
The Answer
24iblis 10 ժամ առաջ
Edward Cui
Edward Cui 10 ժամ առաջ
allen iverson exceeded expectations for 1 season. then, when he teamed up with melo they always fell short. give me russ, cp3, pistons Isiah thomas, curry, and dame over AI any day. AI is still a superstar, but anyone who calls him the GOAT only gets their basketball knowledge from their barber
Daiquan Houser
Daiquan Houser 10 ժամ առաջ
Preach Steven A
core san
core san 10 ժամ առաջ
AI's top 5 teammates: jerry atackhouse, a 35 y/o mutombo, Chris Webber, glenn robinson (who both had their best days behind them) and carmelo anthony Russ top 5 teammates: Durant, harden, beal, George, and 'melo. So you're really gonna ask who will have he better career??
Orange Townsend
Orange Townsend 11 ժամ առաջ
Put prime A.I on OKC with prime Kevin Durant bet he would of beat the heat for nba chip
rodney byrd
rodney byrd 11 ժամ առաջ
Kentucky Fried Children
Kentucky Fried Children 11 ժամ առաջ
I watch ESPN to see Stephen A yell, not for his takes FACT
Piper Machine
Piper Machine 11 ժամ առաջ
Iverson was a leader. Westbrook is a feeder
Piper Machine
Piper Machine 12 ժամ առաջ
Why tf is Molly yelling all the time? Does she think we are deaf or is she just desperate to be noticed?
L dUB 12 ժամ առաջ
Russell never got to the finals📖
Alexis McNear
Alexis McNear 12 ժամ առաջ
Hey Steve A! You also forgot Westbrook also had Carmelo Anthony another Top 5 shooter.
Marques Watkins
Marques Watkins 12 ժամ առաջ
Perk, what you talkin bout!!!! A.I. Drug a terrible team 76ers team to the finals!! In today’s nba, he would probably avg 36 a game..
Garrett Newman
Garrett Newman 12 ժամ առաջ
Allen Iverson did not exceed expectations, he was the number 1 pick, russ got clowned for going 4th in his draft, that's exceeding expectations. Nobody in their right mind thought russ would be who he is out of college.
Jamie Thomas
Jamie Thomas 13 ժամ առաջ
So we really about to forget that AI had Carmelo Anthony and then replaced Chauncey Billups on the Pistons 🤔
SupaFire 13 ժամ առաջ
AI and Koby Bryant have a baby 🤔 huh
Juan Milon
Juan Milon 13 ժամ առաջ
Steven A forgot A.I played with Melo
Robert 13 ժամ առաջ
You give Iverson KD and Harden and he wins a title...
Sara Wilson
Sara Wilson 13 ժամ առաջ
AI and it’s not even close. AI is an icon for a reason & Perkins may have just gotten himself banned from the city of Philadelphia.
Van Smoken
Van Smoken 13 ժամ առաջ
I like perkins now days he is pretty good at this!
Julez Johnson
Julez Johnson 14 ժամ առաջ
Iverson played with minimal talent and won nothing. Westbrook played with generational talent and won nothing. I’d take Iverson 🤷🏽‍♂️
Rakim Mason
Rakim Mason 14 ժամ առաջ
AI > Russ *personally
UsoShitOn 1
UsoShitOn 1 15 ժամ առաջ
If you would choose in a game did you want A.I. or Westbrook in a game in your team who what the people choose, that's how you know...
will stone
will stone 15 ժամ առաջ
He said AI didn’t play with nobody but he played with Melo, Camby, Nene, Kenyon Martin and JR smith all on Denver.
Filip 15 ժամ առաջ
The fact that AI took that teams (where the second best scorers were Aaron McKie and and Mutombo) to the finals and even won a game against one of the best teams in NBA history ('01 Lakers where you have Kobe and Shaq averages 60ppg together) gives the edge to AI to me.
Oscar Barbeito
Oscar Barbeito 15 ժամ առաջ
I'll take A.I. any day of the week over Westbrook... it's not even close. A.I. took a mediocre team to the finals, Westbrook needed KD and Harden...
Dre G
Dre G 15 ժամ առաջ
Close and worth the debate, but....A.I.
Charles Guzman
Charles Guzman 15 ժամ առաջ
Lest go and vote worst reporter ever? Perkins is my vote.
S Y 16 ժամ առաջ
6:45 Perk got offended thinking "The Talent" Stephen A was talking about included him 😂😂😂
885.0 ELopez
885.0 ELopez 16 ժամ առաջ
Depends how many years did each player play what player did what in how much time
S Y 16 ժամ առաջ
Why is this a topic. Russ avgs a triple double AI struggles to get double doubles on a daily, both no titles Russ won already. AI more impactful more heart but Westbrook stats/career is better.
OGofOGz 16 ժամ առաջ
I can’t believe this is even a conversation smh I guess seeing is believing AI is much higher than Russ on that ALLTIME PG LIST!
Lavoy Williams
Lavoy Williams 17 ժամ առաջ
Iverson played with Prime Carmelo.......
trap Kelly
trap Kelly 17 ժամ առաջ
Iverson drug a Terrible team to the finals, Westbrook can't even get out of the first round, Out of all of the "Great " players without a title , Westbrook played with MORE talent , Superstar talent than any of them, KD, Harden,P.G13 ,Melo, Ibaka, Bradley Beal Oladipo etc. And without KD can't get out of the first round, also it is WAAAY easier in this league to put up numbers , A.I would average 40 in today's league, also: Max needs to clear his throat
Mandla Mofenye
Mandla Mofenye 18 ժամ առաջ
Nit interns of accolades...he will do his, but not take a team to the finals, it's like a Bron/MJ story, get your but not better than GOAT
TyBrezzy11 19 ժամ առաջ
hes already better
Vince Cruz
Vince Cruz 19 ժամ առաջ
As much as i love AI hes my fav player they forgot about melo as his teammate
Cruz makaveli
Cruz makaveli 19 ժամ առաջ
Look at Stephen A. listening to Perkins😂 - his face says it all ...............😂😂😂😂
Jan Bulvas
Jan Bulvas 19 ժամ առաջ
There is a big hole in Stephen A. facts.... He forgot that A.I. played with Melo for two years in Denver. Both were amazing at that time. And surely that time Melo was far better then Oladipo with Westbrook. Still for me A.I. is way ahead of Westbrook. Answer is my answer.
William Taute
William Taute 20 ժամ առաջ
Interesting comparison, amongst all the basketball accolades both are cultural and fashion icons in the league. AI crossed up MJ. Though
Ryker Walker
Ryker Walker 20 ժամ առաջ
If Curry was in the league AI would have no first teams. Bad argument
Maty 117
Maty 117 20 ժամ առաջ
If russ wins a ring it will be russ 100%
Engineered Mind
Engineered Mind 21 ժամ առաջ
AI was unmatched
Davin Avila
Davin Avila 21 ժամ առաջ
I agree with Max and Steven A , well said.
baws 21 ժամ առաջ
100 years from now people will talk about westbrook not iverson
Ess Nix
Ess Nix 21 ժամ առաջ
Melo and AI
Spencer Parker
Spencer Parker 21 ժամ առաջ
Cap. Iverson played with Carmelo Anthony. Better than anybody you named other than Kd
fvpbz54 21 ժամ առաջ
Yes, Russ will statistically finish his career better than a lot of players. But that dont make Russ better. Russ just doesnt make a team better and win like AI and many other players that get surpassed statistically by Russ.
Rockin' With Titus
Rockin' With Titus 21 ժամ առաջ
Well I would put AI over Westbrook, but that list of players SAS ranted is a bit dramatic. AI never played with KD. Just stop the list right there. I grew up watching AI, but another fact is that he was a cancer. He wasn't the best teammate. He was literally labeled a ball hog for a lot of his career. If AI had a different attitude, he might have actually played with better guys. Oh...and I'd put Melo on the Nuggets over Victor.
samuel mafua
samuel mafua 21 ժամ առաջ
A.I went to the finals with the Process. I'm backing A.I
Bengerman Browne
Bengerman Browne 21 ժամ առաջ
A.I.- Shaquille O'Neal
RobertoBenet2021 22 ժամ առաջ
Russell will get the stats...But won't win a Finals unless he's on SOMEONE ELSE TEAM...A.I. TOOK HIS TEAM TO A FINAL WITH BESIDES MUTOMBO...A BENCH SQUAD..
Tony Gray
Tony Gray 22 ժամ առաջ
I guess Westbrook did do all that with is ballhog self. That's why kd left okc because Westbrook was hoging the ball.
Tyrus Horn
Tyrus Horn 22 ժամ առաջ
I’ll take Dame over Westbrook 👀
WIndsor Addy
WIndsor Addy 23 ժամ առաջ
He forgot AI played wit Melo
Night train
Night train 23 ժամ առաջ
🤔 Hold up AI did play with Carmelo Anthony in Denver
Mr. Le
Mr. Le 23 ժամ առաջ
AI would've gotten a chip if he played with KD.
Slim Gambino
Slim Gambino Օր առաջ
Steven A. just said AI never had a teammate like AI😂 Smfh lost all credibility
O.G Logarius
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I heard Ai was the first to rock the cornrows in the nba
WYZ PRO Օր առաջ
Didn't Iverson play with Melo in Denver?
Keven Smith
Keven Smith Օր առաջ
No facts he had melo
Justin Cousins-Lee
Justin Cousins-Lee Օր առաջ
What’s the point of this debate ?,
kimeex romero
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